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Selling food at Berlin markets

Advice on the legal requirements and red tape etc.

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sandwich
I am looking into the possibility of selling handmade food products at Berlin markets and was wondering if anyone out there has any experience of this. I imagine that like a lot of things in this country there are lots of legal requirements and red-tape to be dealt with, a fee or two to be paid and maybe even a market-food-seller course that needs to be completed before you are allowed near a stall, is this the case? And advice would be greatly welcomed.
I'm not selling sandwiches by the way
MonksTown
I imagine that like a lot of things in this country there are lots of legal requirements and red-tape to be dealt with, a fee or two to be paid and maybe even a market-food-seller course that needs to be completed before you are allowed near a stall, is this the case?
Please do sell me a sandwich without the xenophobia topping.
Rules relating to commercial food production are EU based.

You will certainly need a food safety certificate, to set up a business (Gewerbeschein)
and you will probably need to find a commercial production premises.

Depends on how far down the path you have gone.
If you already have experience say of making caskes to order for frineds and neighbours then it might be a move to doing a weekly stall.
But if you are just starting out, to go directly to a stall might be too big a step.
shane-o
I've been thinking of something similar in the winter selling roast chestnuts around museum island. Can i do this without certificates for whatevah or do i need to do same, deal with the Ordnungsamt etc?

cheers
Mark of the Beast
This girl that lived with us for a little while made cookies and cakes and the like, and just sold them on the outside of the Mauerpark Flea Market. There's plenty of people on the steps that hock their homemade stuffs, and don't require any certification, fee paying or anything that I am aware of. She did OK out of it. How? I don't know, because last time I checked human hair wasn't a garnish of any description.

Anyway, things might get sticky if someone official wants to create trouble, but I'm not too sure. Over the road too is a smaller market that doesn't seem to be as 'organised', so perhaps you could roll out a blanket there or something.

As for a stall, I have no idea. Actually, that goes for most things ... ha ha.
sandwich
I've been looking into the idea of Winterfeld Platz saturday market. apparently a stall costs €25 and they are given on a first come first serve basis. The place is mainly a food market and most seem very professional but there are always a few sellers that look like small home-producers who I imagine don't have all the licenses and paperwork that might strictly be necessary.
Mauerpark is always a good option as well and I would guess that there all is less strict and less controlled.
I'd love to hear from anyone who has any experience with this.
Cheers
HAL9000
Don't bother with a stall just hang the stuff round your neck like the grill walkers do. Failing that I can sell you a wheelchair. How can this help? Well you are not really a shop or a stall then and a lot of health and safety standards fall by the way side. As for Vic Chestnut's idea it's a good one. The best way to do that however is to build a butchers bike with the kit on it and that's not a stall. Pitch up for a bit and move on.
sandwich
I think the same rules would apply whether I am standing behind a stall or have it all around my neck... it just makes the get-away easier when the authorities arrive... picture that in a wheelchair.
But still there must be someone other there with experience of actually selling food at a stall in a Berlin market.
HAL9000
The same rules don't apply at the market they apply where the food is prepared... ever looked at the fingernails of a Grillwalker??? I rest my case and say take a chance you have to start somewhere and perhaps the worst that happens is you get a warning or small fine and a copy of the rules. Best of luck.

There is a big difference between a stall holder and a vendor in Berlin.
sandwich
Thanks Hal for the reply but in my case I'm not all that interested in doing the Grillwalker thing or the stuff around my neck thing. I am asking specifically what are the actual requirements for food sellers on a market stall and I am interested in hearing from others that have experience of this.
HAL9000
Well today is Friday and the weekend of markets starts. From Prenz to Boxhagner back to Mitte you could go and speak with other stall holders. The people who are doing it would give you practical advice. Just talk to people and ask for God's sake it's the best way and most obvious to get some proper info I would suppose.

You can check this for the official version of things I suppose.

http://www.berliner-adressen.de/Amter_Beho...nungsamter.html
sandwich
yes that is the plan anyway...
HAL9000
so why are you wasting my time?
sandwich
hey Hal, what the *bleep*, you’re wasting your own time on here… it was your choice to reply.
I have asked a simple question in the hope of finding people on here who have some experience and are willing to offer advice.
For some people that’s how these forums work…
HAL9000
Sorry for being so rude. The heat is getting to me.
sandwich
no worries me too...
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