Due to a dramatic plunge in interest
The Local
19.Jun.2009 17:32 hrs
The German music industry has cancelled this year's Popkomm trade fair in Berlin due to a dramatic plunge in interest.
One of the most important annual events for Germany's music industry, the fair had been scheduled for September. But Popkomm director Katja Gross said on Friday that a "striking" collapse in the number of expected industry visitors forced organisers to pull the plug on the 2009 edition.
Going from current registrations, Popkomm was likely to draw only half of the 14,000 professional visitors seen last year. The number of exhibitors was also expected to drop from the 843 in 2008.
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So36
19.Jun.2009 17:47 hrs
HAHAHAHAHA. The music industry can't come up with a new business model so now it's gonna start looking for public handouts. Gorny maybe needs to switch to the German insurance industry. AOK always needs pencil pushers.
Fireplug52
20.Jun.2009 08:17 hrs
It seems that the easy way for their failure to come up with artist that have an interest for the public, is to automatically blame internet piracy. Makes no sense. It appears that the industry has left by the wayside those who in the earlier days made the music industry a money making machine and that is the over fifty crowd. Granted I will agree that some of it is internet piracy, but I am hard pressed to believe that it has that big of an impact. This mantra of theirs is beginning to sound more and more like the global warming scam. If one is a true fan of the music they will choose to buy rather than download it illegally.
Jessp
22.Jun.2009 09:10 hrs
Boring, uncreative music scene + alternative entertainment (computer games etc) - illegal downloading = death of the music industry as we know it.
You need a new business model guys, not just an increased marketing budget, some new starlet (same as the old starlet), and lawyers chasing teenage downloaders.
HAL9000
23.Jun.2009 18:00 hrs
I'm very glad Popcon has cancelled itself out as it's about time the Music, 'industry', died here.
paulwork
24.Jun.2009 11:40 hrs
Well, since PopKomm was "stolen" from Cologne and moved to Berlin, I don't really have much sympathy.
HAL9000
25.Jun.2009 10:48 hrs
The Popkom in Koln an number of years ago provided one of the biggest laughs of my short life. A record company hired a boat to promote a new teenage punk band. They were shit, looked good and thought they were the Sex Pistols for some reason.
The music was bland and pretty much your standard, ‘I think I’m Johnny Rotten when I piss out the window of the Hotel’, sort of stuff. The singer had considered this thought and decided to make his big splash with the public so dives into the crowd. It’s great they start acting like a human trampoline and throwing him in the air. At this point the singer thinks he has made it in life with joy of the fans swelling his soul. He looks up and sees there are more fans than he expected. In fact they are rather large fans... ventilation fans to be precise, hanging from the low roof in a boat not designed for Premadonna Punk or the likes.
Each crowd surfing wave that crashed through him brought him closer and closer to...
it was messy and no longer Punk...
Splatter Core was born.
Chocky
26.Jun.2009 21:29 hrs
Germans can't make pop music, they're good with electronic music, but suck at every other modern genre.
Stranger
27.Jun.2009 01:31 hrs
Disagree. For pop look at a band like Klee. At least that is if we make the distinction between the pop genre and "charts" music. Also Rammstein at the top of their respective industrial-metal tree. If you can't find the good in German music, you are not looking hard enough.
Chocky
27.Jun.2009 19:53 hrs
Don't tell me i'm not looking hard enough you wingnut. I actually know quite a lot about music, of all genres, from many different countries so if you want to have a train spotting music knowledge battle lets go. I'll kick your butt.
I didn't say I can't find any good in German music, read my post again if you have to.
German pop music is generally shit for two reasons: German sounds terrible when it is sung, and Germans singing English sounds generally BAD, (with the possible exception of Florian and Ralf in a few Kraftwerk songs). The other issue I have with contemporary German pop, is that they have taken the worst elements of American shite like Christina Aqualibra, Pink and Shakira and mechanically reformed it in to some hideous noise which is the aural equivalent of humous.
I'll let you get back to your Robbie Williams CD.
europaeuropa
28.Jun.2009 16:46 hrs
And as far as real Garage music goes (not that crappy 2 step/UK garage BS) Germany isn't even on that map. OK, so Sabrynaah Pope may have lived in Munich, but she was a New Yorker through and through...
mophonic
28.Jun.2009 21:56 hrs
god who cares...you guys sound so lame/or chocky, ole choc-full of himself....to combine the words music and industry gives the game away allready! an music being the universal language blows any national-based ideas out the water, other than subtext of cultural hegemony......poppkomm...popular kommerz...manufacturing culture......
everything plays a role the internet no less
the glut of bedroom based machine bleeps
drug washed out weekend tweaking
the glutton overload
the lack of silence
youth denied (an experience to enable) a voice of its own
corporate
all-devouring
death of capitalist based
economy
adrift
in pirate waters....
Mark of the Beast
30.Jun.2009 08:09 hrs
Germans can't make pop music, they're good with electronic music, but suck at every other modern genre.
I beg to differ: they've got a good handle on the thrash / 80's HC / power violence thing. Which, in the overall scale of music history, is rather "modern".
Small Town Boy
30.Jun.2009 08:11 hrs
Whether Germans can make music or not is irrelevant; Popkomm is a trade fair and, with a population of 85 million, Germany is the industry's largest market in Europe.
HAL9000
30.Jun.2009 08:18 hrs
I think you will find UK consumers are the biggest music buyers in the world. Population has little to do with actual buying or music tastes. Apart from all of that Popkomm is dead because the Internet is the worldwide shop window not some vain tax break once a year.
dee123
30.Jun.2009 08:48 hrs
god who cares...you guys sound so lame/or chocky, ole choc-full of himself...to combine the words music and industry gives the game away allready! an music being the universal language blows any national-based ideas out the water, other than subtext of cultural hegemony...poppkomm...popular kommerz...manufacturing culture...
everything plays a role the internet no less
the glut of bedroom based machine bleeps
drug washed out weekend tweaking
the glutton overload
the lack of silence
youth denied (an experience to enable) a voice of its own
corporate
all-devouring
death of capitalist based
economy
adrift
in pirate waters...
mophonic: you rawk!
dee123
30.Jun.2009 08:52 hrs
imho popkomm had a pretty lame line up in recent years.
theres something very un rock and roll about bands who are sponsored by the danish ministry for culture and the like.
its all far from cutting edge...
Borracho
30.Jun.2009 11:33 hrs
Maybe the moguls of the music industry can call on the government to give them a bailout like the banks!!! It's purely evolution or even revolution - as the people who profit most from the sales of Cd's etc. are not the artists themselves but the companies that distribute and promote. As history has taught us - the money in music as always is in concerts & gigs to which the artists gain - the sales of CDs is more beneficial to the 'record companies'.
beatlebum
01.Jul.2009 22:17 hrs
CHOCKY, that was legend, I totally agree with you. Berlin is a great city for electronic music, best in the world but as for alternative/indie music in Germany, it doesn't exist. Its very hard to find good alternative bars in Berlin playing anything but minimal house music, don't get me wrong I like a bit of electronica but I would love to go to some bars and hear alternative/indie, there are some good clubs playing it but you have to look hard. As for the crap German music you have to look at on tv or on the radio, it is the worst ever, I can't remember the last good German band that came out of the country except for Kraftwerk and Can, to name but a few. These days people are listening to the likes of Silbermond, Rosenstolz, Die Toten Hosen, Die Artze, etc all singing in German, so you can see how big in the world they want to make it and all are rubbish. On the other hand I think German people really want to hear good music, most of the best alternative gigs in Berlin sell out. It has often baffled me and my wife (and she is German), why German music is so bad and how come there are no German bands well known in the rest of the world, apart from Kraftwerk compared with the Uk and US who produce the most popular music in the world as a whole with the rest of us adding a band here or there.
HAL9000
02.Jul.2009 08:31 hrs
'there are no German bands well known in the rest of the world'
Rubbish look at Tokio Hotel.
http://www.tokiohotel.com/us/
Mark of the Beast
02.Jul.2009 10:05 hrs
Beatlebum ... try White Noise, the indie club nite at White Trash on Schönhauser Allee, held on Saturdays. At least, I think it's still running ...
beatlebum
02.Jul.2009 17:05 hrs
Cheers Mark, I'll check it out, sounds good. Did someone mention Tokia Hotel, bloody hell, talk about regurgitated crap, this has all the worse qualities of music today 'all style, no substance' and the music is dreadful... wish they'd go to Tokio (sorry Tokyo), man that so clever how they spelt Tokio, about as clever as their lyrics.
Chocky
02.Jul.2009 17:55 hrs
Rubbish look at Tokio Hotel.
Yeah, look at them. They should all be put on a decommissioned cross channel ferry and then used as a torpedo target by the HMS Fuckyouall.
Mark of the Beast
03.Jul.2009 06:23 hrs
Tokio Hotel ARE bad, there's no denying that but, they're no Modern Talking ... if you haven't heard them, you need to look up the video for 'Cherry Cherry Lady' and all will become clear.
Dieter Bohlen, that insidious, granite jawed Pop Stormtrooper needs to be tried at Nurenburg, then hanged and burned. Thomas Anders too.
beatlebum
03.Jul.2009 10:32 hrs
Mark, I'll give you a hand burning that pillock Dieter Bohlen, I want to cringe every time I see him on the tv and he is never off it. And thats another thing German tv is also rubbish, now that we are having a rant about how bad their music is, tv is the worst ever. It was so bad this year one of the pillars of the German entertainment industry came out and said it was some of the worst tv in the world. Now I know with my limited German a lot of it passes me by, but you just have to look at the type of programming thats on and don't get me started about the American style ad breaks. Apart from that though I still love Berlin but I do miss the odd good tv show, can't beat some of the shows on BBC or Channel 4 in the Uk.
swimmer
06.Jul.2009 06:49 hrs
man that so clever how they spelt Tokio, about as clever as their lyrics.
"Tokio" is the German name for the capital city of Japan (letter "y" is rarely used in German). There are many things to bash TH for but using their own language for name (when starting out as no-mark kids in Magdeburg or wherever it was) is hardly one of them, I'd have thought! They'd probably have been bashed for using an Anglicised version!
I'm quite surprised that nobody in the UK has "manufactured" a teeny-"Emo/Goth" band, TH clone, yet. It'd make a mint.
HAL9000
06.Jul.2009 09:52 hrs
Yes quite so and I'm not saying they are any good but they are a huge export. However I would point out a few good German pop/rock bands like, 2raumwohnung, wir sind helden and kettcar to name but a few.
ouPiet
13.Jul.2009 12:39 hrs
Just to add that morr music, a Berlin based record company, have signed some of Germany's sweetest sounds, like Lali Puna, and Bobby and Blum -
http://www.morrmusic.com/artist
Perhaps not exactly pop as we know it, but still refreshing..
MonksTown
13.Jul.2009 13:16 hrs
There's some great German music out there.
t's not going to be handed to you on a plate by the music industry though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVmXgOQNtNQ...feature=related
Wir Sind Helden - Nur ein Wort
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg1cmCwwaV0
Jeans Team - Das Zelt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHUbTohLWo
Stereo Total - Liebe zu Dritt
Another Stereo Total tune. I just saw the video for the first time, more smoking than you will ever see in a video I guess.
"Ich bin der Stricherjunge":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jB65023Qg...feature=related
beatlebum
13.Jul.2009 18:42 hrs
Jeans Team sounds good, must check out some more of them, nice one Monkstown. I have some Wir Sind Helden album, they aren't too bad. My wife likes Die Fantastischen Vier, kind of German version of the Happy Mondays, not as good though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I15XSuR251c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIi7k69LG88
splitradix
14.Jul.2009 09:54 hrs
99 Luftballons
thatcousinsboy
22.Aug.2009 16:10 hrs
Some independents have set up a music festival to replace popcom details here - http://www.a-2-n.de/
SKershaw
02.Sep.2009 15:48 hrs
for the #2 recording city in the world behind L.A., this is a severe blow to the Berlin and German recording music scene. Wow... I wonder if a lot of travel budgets and priorities shifted in this industry and/or many labels and companies decided to only hit larger type conventions.
this event wasnt exclusive to just pop music... it was all genres and all countries (mostly european in weight) and primarily directed at new talent, concepts, etc.
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