Update: Brazil beat USA in final, Wed. 24.Jun.09
DaveBerlinMancini
15.Jun.2009 07:20 hrs
What: football match US vs Italy
When: 20:30
Where; ???
Does anyone want to meet to watch the US vs Italy match tonight? Anyone know any bars where it is showing?
berlinender
15.Jun.2009 08:55 hrs
I watched the game last night (over the internet) and bored the socks of me untill the last 15 minutes. South Africa even had chance to throw away a chance to win it, with one of their players clearing off the oppositions line! absolutely hilarious, I hope they dont disgrace themselves next year..
I suppose that doesnt answer your question, does it!
Have you tried Belushi's in Mitte?
perdido
15.Jun.2009 08:59 hrs
I dont see it on sky sports schedule does anyone know which network is showing this? So I can track down a southern pub.
DaveBerlinMancini
15.Jun.2009 13:39 hrs
yeah that is good advice...Belushis is showing it at 20:30! bis dann
Ami in Berlin
15.Jun.2009 15:15 hrs
It's on dsf. Any bar that normally shows sports will be showing it, as there is nothing else on to compete with.
PS. I'll be watching at Salamas.
AimeeColleen
15.Jun.2009 16:24 hrs
I'll be watching it at Belushi's tonight too! American, small, blonde, cheering for both teams
bohemka
15.Jun.2009 16:54 hrs
American, small, blonde, cheering for both teams
FAIL.
berlinender
15.Jun.2009 19:21 hrs
HT: USA 1 ITALY 0 .Lol... . Come on you Sceptics, you can do it!
perdido
15.Jun.2009 20:30 hrs
That red card was bullshit.
bohemka
15.Jun.2009 20:57 hrs
I thought the US was awesome tonight. Simply awesome. They showed up on time, wore the same uniform, and almost all of them played the entire match. You really can't ask much more from a team.
berlinender
16.Jun.2009 08:27 hrs
Uniform?? Kit my friend, kit.
Enjoyed the Brazil - Egypt game yesterday.
bohemka
16.Jun.2009 09:18 hrs
The day I call it a kit is the day I hurl all over the loo. Not gonna happen.
berlinender
16.Jun.2009 09:29 hrs
Powerful thing is hurling (thats another sport). I didnt think USA were worth apotheosising that much though.
Ami in Berlin
16.Jun.2009 10:08 hrs
Uniform?? Kit my friend, kit.
No, there is no need for Americans to affect Britishisms when we have our own perfectly good terms for things. It's pathetic and demonstrates an insecurity when Americans start talking about the pitch, the kit, and boots when playing football. I've grown up in the US and have spent my life playing and watching soccer on a field wearing a uniform and soccer shoes. And I never felt that I had immitate British English to do so.
As for the game, it was at least better than our last two qualifiers, but then every team looks good against Italy, but yet they always win. That's just how Italy plays. But the game still demonstrates that Bradley is inflexable and simply not up to the job. Altidore is not, never has been, and never will be any good playing as a lone striker. Playing a two defensive mid "empty bucket" formation against a team that anyway is willing to concede possession is nonesense and denies us any effective way of linking up the field. Hoofing long balls at the head of a man who is clearly not a target striker and who anyway has nobody playing off him will not work, and neither will playing long (poorly executed) diagonal balls to wingers who are unable to track them down. The only time we looked at all decent was when Donovan slid into the middle of the field to give some service, but it sure would have been a lot better to have Adu or Torres doing that right from the start with Donovan playing next to Altidore.
If Bradley's coaching at the World Cup (and there is no reason to believe he won't be), it'll be another three and out with at best one point. But at least Mexico is in even worse shape.
Next up: what I think will be a surprisingly close loss to Brazil followed by an ass-kicking from Egypt.
berlinender
16.Jun.2009 11:29 hrs
Point taken. Am I correct in thinking USA have more-or-less qualified for the World cup next year? Do the top 2 qualify automatic, and the 3rd place play off against someone from South America?
Ami in Berlin
16.Jun.2009 12:04 hrs
Our loss to Costa Rica made things kind of interesting, and if we'd gone down to Honduras we'd be in trouble. But as it is we are more or less in. There are six teams in final round home and away group; the top three qualify and the fourth plays off against the number of five team from South America. The final group is more interesting this time than in the past couple cycles, as we are down a little, Mexico is down a lot, Costa Rica is solid, Honduras is much improved, and El Salvador is very strong at home. Trinidad & Tobago is much worse than last time. You can only really count on points against T&T and El Salvador at home. Basically, the top teams have worsened while the lesser teams have improved.
There is actually a decent chance of Mexico going into the playoff, and with Argentina a mess thanks to being coached by a coke-head, that could be the match up. It would be interesting, at least.
bohemka
16.Jun.2009 12:08 hrs
That would be an amazing match.
berlinender
16.Jun.2009 12:14 hrs
Indeed coached by a coke-head and a cheat. What he did at Mexico '86 I will never forgive him for. lets hope Mexico and US make it!
Ami in Berlin
16.Jun.2009 13:31 hrs
I can understand the sentiment. But any self-respecting US fan would have to pull for whoever is playing Mexico, even if that means a cheating coke-head.
It's amazing how such an incredible group of talent can be completely wasted by poor management, though. And he's more or less un-fireable, which is dangerous in any business.
bohemka
16.Jun.2009 13:41 hrs
Actually, the US only plays well when they play Mexico. The rivalry can only be improved if both sides do well. I'm all for Mexico until they meet.
Ami in Berlin
16.Jun.2009 14:10 hrs
I've heard plenty of logical arguments why we should want Mexico to do well. And I accept the logic. A better Mexico means better competition for us, thus improving out team. If, say, El Salvador does to the World Cup instead of Mexico and Concacaf teams stink up the tournament, we may lose half a birth. But I don't care. I want Mexico to lose every time they set foot on the field. Thats what rivalry means.
How many Scots do you think want England to do well? How many Schalke fans pull for Dortmund? Or in an American context, can you imagine a Red Sox fan rooting for the Yankees? Ohio State alumni for Michigan? Given the history we have in soccer with Mexico, no way. We're talking about the country that stole the WC 86 away from us, which contributed to the collapse of the NASL and more than a decade of only semi-pro soccer being played in the US. We're talking about a team whose fans have thrown batteries at our players ... IN THE USA! We're talking about fans who chanted "Osama" at the Azteca and, literally, urinated on our traveling fans in the stadium. Or look at it this way, how many people do you think are sitting in Mexico City pulling for the US to do well in the Confed Cup?
Root for Mexico? Never.
bohemka
16.Jun.2009 14:16 hrs
You make some compelling points. I wasn't aware of any battery tossing.
Did Donovan piss on their turf or is that a myth?
perdido
16.Jun.2009 14:17 hrs
Edit
Fuck that I cannot cheer for Oklahoma.
bohemka
16.Jun.2009 14:27 hrs
Nice edit, Dude.
But to answer your first post, the x-ecutioners said it best:
Got Toni Braxton-lookin women collapsin
My beats get feet to steppin like Fast Actin Tinactin
Dominant X-Men conference like Pac-10
perdido
16.Jun.2009 14:35 hrs
Yeah I have to admit I agree with Amiinberlin. The thought of cheering on Oklahoma disgusted me. Well three things I want to say. Fire Bradly . Hire klinsmann. Big 12 rules!
As the great poet said "The Pac 10 has schools?".
The Carly Simon Project
16.Jun.2009 14:42 hrs
Is Klinsmann really the answer? I know he's European and all that. But I thought it turns out he was just the rah-rah guy, while Löw was the real coaching brains behind the German national team.
perdido
16.Jun.2009 14:48 hrs
Almost anything is better than Bradly although your assesment of the Bayern situation is correct. In my mind though klinsmann has something to offer.
Ami in Berlin
16.Jun.2009 14:51 hrs
You make some compelling points. I wasn't aware of any battery tossing.
Did Donovan piss on their turf or is that a myth?
Never heard of that. He's said some fairly inflammatory things and is hate figure #1 for the Mexican media, though.
Beasley pissed on the sideline during the Germany match at the 2002 WC. It was nothing intended to be provocative: he just had to go.
lilplatinum
16.Jun.2009 18:27 hrs
Fuck that I cannot cheer for Oklahoma.
Yeah, I couldn't do it even if the survival of the human race somehow depended on it.
perdido
16.Jun.2009 18:31 hrs
Ironic statement since the human race stops at the gates of Norman.
berlinender
17.Jun.2009 10:09 hrs
So next up on the bill today is Spain v Iraq and South Africa v New Zealand, anyone meeting to watch it?
Ami in Berlin
18.Jun.2009 13:38 hrs
Just saw the lineup for tonight's game (v. Brazil). If we score from the run of play, it will be a miracle. I'm recording it to watch after work, but I'm starting to wonder if I should have even bothered.
bohemka
18.Jun.2009 13:49 hrs
Well you want to able to contribute to the conversation tonight/tomorrow when we dissect the US's lethargy and lack of creativity, so it was a wise move.
Ami in Berlin
18.Jun.2009 14:00 hrs
Seriously. Bradley blasts Adu's lack of club playing time, but then trots out Beasley and Altidore. Torres has inexplicably been in the dog-house since halftime in Costa Rica. Altidore's all alone up top again while Cooper's back in Houston but Casey's with the team. Dempsey and his bag of tricks seems incapable of getting benched. I'm sick already.
Ami in Berlin
18.Jun.2009 20:25 hrs
Disgusting display. Even getting screwed twice by the ref and hitting the bar twice, if anything we deserved to lose by more.
Ami in Berlin
21.Jun.2009 09:18 hrs
Anyone know if Belushi's is able to show the USA-Egypt game today? It's not on German TV, as DSF is showing Italy-Brazil. Apparently it's on in the UK on something called "BBC Red Button". So, anyone know if they can show this with their sat?
berlinender
21.Jun.2009 11:35 hrs
Im sure Belushi's would show it, if its on Sky or Setanta sports. I dont think they have BBC.
berlinender
21.Jun.2009 11:59 hrs
Or maybe if your struggling to find a bar showing it, perhaps internet is an option.
Ami in Berlin
21.Jun.2009 12:41 hrs
Not on Sky or Setanta, only BBC "Red Button". No coverage from Ireland either, as RTE is showing the Italy-Brazil game.
It would be easy enough to watch online, but I'd like to go out.
I know nothing about what sat setup Belushi's has, but if they are getting their content off the British sat, how can they not have BBC? Or do they have an Irish box?
Ami in Berlin
21.Jun.2009 14:43 hrs
Just called. They say it's on. I'm not sure I believe it, but we'll see.
Ami in Berlin
22.Jun.2009 01:34 hrs
Yeaaaahhhhhh!!!
That's all for now. 3:30 am. Russian acrobats and Polish models to celebrate. America: FUCK YEAH!
berlinender
22.Jun.2009 07:21 hrs
Well done Ami, you lot werent too shabby in the second half! I could you celebrate with you, If you bring a pole or russian this way..did you go to Belushi'S in the end?
Ami in Berlin
22.Jun.2009 08:57 hrs
Went to Belushi's. As you said, they don't have BBC and couldn't show it. I got the manager out to explain that it would be fine except that I called earlier to ask specifically about that channel. Not much he can do, but at least he apologised, which is more than you'd ever get out of the Oscars. So all I've seen are the goals when DSF swiched over from the Italy-Brazil game.
Of course being Belushi's, there was no sound. I'd also done my math wrong and thought we needed a seven point swing, not six. So we left thinking we'd fallen a goal short. I wondered why the US players were celebrating so much, but figured they were just happy not to have stunk.
Then went to a cabaret staff party in Lichtenburg. Very strange. The mixture of cheap whiskey and orange juice explains why I'm at home and not a work today.
Only discovered that we'd advanced upon getting home at 3:30.
Salama's on Wednesday, then.
berlinender
22.Jun.2009 10:09 hrs
Belushi's do annoy me sometimes when they wont play games with no or minimal sound; Its like the punters are playing second fiddle to whatever the bar staff at that time wishes to listen to on the CD player. Ive had that trick before, and sitting at one of the tables have asked for the sound only to be told 'we'll put it on bang on kick-off' Bollocks. Then when the big game started they only put it up a touch, then got blasted out by red hot chilli peppers or whatever trash it was. I presume then you were sat at the bar if you didnt have any sound! The internet streams wee lagging like crazy last night; watched the first half of Brazil v Italy and got that annoyed I went out out and filled my face with junk food..lol.
Ill be down the Murrays tonight watching the U-21's, perhaps it will be the same score as the USA game?
Ami in Berlin
24.Jun.2009 20:54 hrs
Un-effing-believable.
That's all I've got right now.
berlinender
24.Jun.2009 22:08 hrs
I dont bloody believe it, well done man! Where did you watch it tonight?
bohemka
24.Jun.2009 23:10 hrs
From the beebeesee:
1930: USA have their pre-match huddle - let's hope something Churchillian was said - and we are under way.
We'll never tell.
Pete V
24.Jun.2009 23:43 hrs
EPIC GAME
eurovol
24.Jun.2009 23:51 hrs
Yes it was. It was kind of like watching the USA v Russia hockey game back in 1980.
Ami in Berlin
25.Jun.2009 09:42 hrs
I watched at home, from behind the couch.
Pretty much everything went right tonight. We came out and had a go, got the goal, and then parked the bus. One defensive mistake and Spain scores, and if Spain scores one, they score more. But no, Torres and Villa got owned by a central defensive partnership from Standard Lierge and Watford, with a D-Mid from Houston assisting. Unbelievable.
Defending that deeply, holding no possession, and not winning any balls in the midfield sure made me nervous, but it was pretty much all we could do.
Nine times out of ten we lose this game, but last night was that one time.
We're playing on house money now, and I expect nothing from the final on Sunday. Look how gassed everyone was at the end of the game. Sunday will be fun, regardless of the outcome.
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