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garibaldi
LIDL is doing American "MCENNEDY" foodstuffs from 13th. August 2008.
I'll pop down just to see how the other half lives and survives.
Who says German supermarkets are useless? Huh?
BadDoggie
The McKennedy stuff, for the most part, sucks. Not an American firm, not American products, not very good. It's what Germans think American should taste like.

woof.
Pas
Leeza and I were joking about this. How come when they have British food we have a massive thread about it but the US food nobody is interested in.

Leeza said it's because it's not American. Americans don't have sweet popcorn. She must be wrong as it clearly says on the boxes 'American Style' so it must be true.

I might buy the icecream.
garibaldi
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Aug 12 2008, 8:57 am) *
The McKennedy stuff, for the most part, sucks. Not an American firm, not American products, not very good. It's what Germans think American should taste like.
woof.

...and who's talking reality?
It's MCENNEDY and not McKennedy - unless you've gone all catholic or summat.
DanHessen
Man, this really takes me home. I mean who can forget the wonderful aromas of Mcennedy cheese pasta coming from Mom's kitchen? And how about that Western style pizza with corn on it? Remember the old saying...baseball, Mom, apple pie, and corn pizza.
BadDoggie
The shit is made by German firms. It is as much "American food" as throwing (maize) corn into something makes it Mexican (which, in German eyes, it does). It's horrible, horrible crap. And while tastes and products do vary across such a large country, I challenge you to find non-imported sweet popcorn anywhere within the US.

woof.
Janx Spirit
Shoppers prefer Aldi and Lidl to big four supermarkets, poll says

QUOTE
A retail revolution is taking place on Britain's high streets as consumers switch their allegiance to "no frills" German discount supermarkets Aldi and Lidl, according to a survey out today.

Why are German supermarkets so crap again? wink.gif
Pas
Do they have Lidl in the US? ;-)
BadDoggie
Nope, no Lidl in the US for the same reason that Wal*Mart failed here in Germany: incredibly tight and tough market with massive infrastructure in place for those already there.

woof.
Jules Winnfield
I would say that "tight" and "tough" are code words for undemanding...
Janx Spirit
In all honesty, the Germans probably do a better job on the food than underpaid American workers from ethnic minorities (and don't use genetically manipulated ingredients).

Miaow wink.gif
Melia
Non-imported sweet popcorn is actually quite popular in parts of the Midwest, often called kettle corn and sold fresh from the kettle at fairs and festivals.
Jules Winnfield
Bla bla bla... Now Germany is a hotbed for gastronomy too? biggrin.gif Some people really have been living here too long.
crusoe
QUOTE (Pas @ Aug 12 2008, 9:01 am) *
Americans don't have sweet popcorn

What? Honest?
A formative experience, and not in a good way, was a bag of mixed flavour popcorn I tried in America. Watermelon, grape, cinnamon, lemon, apple etc. Definitely sweet, but not flavorsome.
lilplatinum
QUOTE (Janx Spirit @ Aug 12 2008, 9:36 am) *
In all honesty, the Germans probably do a better job on the food than underpaid American workers from ethnic minorities (and don't use genetically manipulated ingredients).

If all the Mexicans in Texas are a sign of anything, underpaid ethnic minorities (actually a stretch to call them much of a minority) make quite delicious food.
Deccie
Here we go again anlother supermarket thread to liven up my Tuesday.
Clapoti
For the people interested in seeing the "American" products...

http://www.lidl.de/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_de/hs...index_48155.htm
eurovol
QUOTE (Janx Spirit @ Aug 12 2008, 9:36 am) *
and don't use genetically manipulated ingredients

Every living thing, even you, is genetically manipulated. rolleyes.gif
lilplatinum
QUOTE (Clapoti @ Aug 12 2008, 10:04 am) *
For the people interested in seeing the "American" products...

http://www.lidl.de/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_de/hs...index_48155.htm

I remember sitting down as a kid with a nice Rib burger and some Kartoffel-snacks...
BadDoggie
QUOTE (Janx Spirit @ Aug 12 2008, 9:36 am) *
In all honesty, the Germans probably do a better job on the food than underpaid American workers from ethnic minorities (and don't use genetically manipulated ingredients).

It's incredible the amount of shit you manage to pack into one small sentence.

underpaid American workers
Thanks to the current regime, that would be about 82% of the population. Shall we turn the spotlight back on the bearer and have a look at chav income?

Germans probably do a better job on the food
Germans CANNOT do better with ANY food. Even a potted meat food product-eating trailer trash redneck has more culinary skills than the majority of the German population.

from ethnic minorities
From whence America got such a diverse choice of foods. I'm guessing you never eat curry, preferring beef and veg boiled for 2 days and served with a side of lard.

don't use genetically manipulated ingredients
GM food isn't inherently bad; we need to feed six and a half BILLION people. The lack of testing and corporate policies cough*monsanto*cough as well as the patent issues are certainly problem but simply increasing yield is not a bad thing. Even your damned "bio" wheat has little in common with the wild plant the Turks domesticated some 10,000 years ago.

At least some of the stuff Lidl sold under the "Hatherwood" name was manufactured by UK companies. Not so this "American" crap-ola.

woof.
Renia
I can never get that 5 mins of my life back again, however I just looked at their offerings and it is sad to say the least. There was virtually nothing there that you couldn´t already get in Munich IMHO. Nothing new, move along folks...
DanHessen
The dried cranberries might be decent for some recipes. The yellow mustard couldn't be that bad for 99c assuming it's remotely authentic. The onion rings could be good for a laugh. The rest seems to be German shite with poorly researched American-sounding names.

But at least they aren't asking extortionate prices like Rewe.
Clapoti
Well they had an American week at Lidl some time ago and I bought the onion rings... they were surprisingly good IMO.
Eck Spatz
Tesco. Every Lidl helps.
Bipa
For some of us, the "sale" starts on Thursday rather than Wednesday. I'm not too impressed by the selection, though I'm willing to try out the onion rings.

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Die große Amerika-Woche, ab 14.08.
Hinweis! In Regionen mit Feiertag am Freitag, 15.08. erhalten Sie diese Artikel bereits ab Mittwoch, 13.08.

rough transl:
The big American Week, starting August 14
Note! In regions with a holiday on Friday August 15, you can get these items starting Wednesday, August 13.
GerryM
QUOTE (Jules Winnfield @ Aug 12 2008, 9:35 am) *
I would say that "tight" and "tough" are code words for undemanding...

So why did Wal-Mart fail?
funf
QUOTE (Pas @ Aug 12 2008, 12:30 am) *
Do they have Lidl in the US;-)

The owners of LIDL have bought Trader Joe's stores in the U.S., which is not nearly as discount as LIDL, but offers better value to US customers than do the usual grocery stores. Plus, they carry unique products, including lots of imports. You could get your Ritter chocolate bars there, for example.

I think there are a few LIDL stores in the U.S., but not too many. Certainly not where I live.
Eleanor Rigby
You're all missing the point.

This food isn't being produced for you, it's aimed at the German market and if the German market wants its "American" popcorn sweet and it's "American" pizza to contain corn then that's what it gets.
Pas
Leeza was telling me all about Trader Joe's. Sounds a cool place.
ThePigsInBlankets
QUOTE (GerryM @ Aug 12 2008, 12:49 pm) *
So why did Wal-Mart fail?

Some explanation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/business...mart&st=cse
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/02/business...mart&st=cse
don_riina
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German market wants its "American" popcorn sweet and it's "American" pizza to contain corn then that's what it gets.

Makes me think, why have they not yet started to market sauerkrout pizza yet? Surely that'd go down a storm? They could put little mini wiener sausages on it.
Pas
With or without sweetcorn?
funf
http://www.traderjoes.com/
Fallen Angel
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Makes me think, why have they not yet started to market sauerkrout pizza yet? Surely that'd go down a storm? They could put little mini wiener sausages on it.

Actually, you can get hamburger and sauerkraut pizza. In the part of the States that I'm from anyways. I've never tried it.
randy
QUOTE (funf @ Aug 12 2008, 12:51 pm) *
The owners of LIDL have bought Trader Joe's stores in the U.S.

Hmmm...I thought it was Aldi Nord, not Lidl.
Darkknight
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Trader Joe's is a privately held chain of specialty grocery stores headquartered in Monrovia, California. As of July 2008, Trader Joe's has a total of 301 stores. Its stores are located most densely in Southern California, but the grocery company has locations in 22 other states and Washington, D.C. Trader Joe's was founded by Joe Coulombe and is currently owned by a family trust set up by German billionaire Theo Albrecht, one of the two brothers behind Aldi. - Link

And Theo Albrecht runs, Aldi Sued - Link

Do people even research anymore before posting.. GOOGLE... USE IT!!!
fruitlassie
The Aldis up here carry some Trader Joe's branded products, mainly nuts and dried fruits but they seem to be slowly increasing their range. Just looked at their website and they will be carrying "Trader Joe's" hot dogs in a jar as of the 14th. blink.gif I thought TJ's was all about selling healthy stuff?
garibaldi
QUOTE (Eleanor Rigby @ Aug 12 2008, 12:52 pm) *
You're all missing the point.
This food isn't being produced for you, it's aimed at the German market and if the German market wants its "American" popcorn sweet and it's "American" pizza to contain corn then that's what it gets.

Hats off to you ER. That's precisely what it's all about. Nobody at LIDL gives one shiny shite about expats or TT.
I'll be trundling over to LIDL later on - unarmed.
randy
QUOTE (fruitlassie @ Aug 12 2008, 2:27 pm) *
I thought TJ's was all about selling healthy stuff?

Back in the days it was all about the cheap (but decent enough) gallons of wine. I thought that's what they were best known for. That, and pretty good frozen teriyaki beef bowls. Yum.
Qwertz
QUOTE (garibaldi @ Aug 12 2008, 8:45 am) *
LIDL is doing American "MCENNEDY" foodstuffs from 13th. August 2008.
I'll pop down just to see how the other half lives and survives.
Who says German supermarkets are useless? Huh?

I shop there, because it is the least bad option here. I went there today, but saw no McEnnedy or whatever. Whereabouts in the store should I have looked? Is it frozen stuff, or packets, or fresh, or what?
Deccie
QUOTE (garibaldi @ Aug 12 2008, 8:45 am) *
LIDL is doing American "MCENNEDY" foodstuffs from 13th. August 2008.
I'll pop down just to see how the other half lives and survives.
Who says German supermarkets are useless? Huh?

QUOTE (Qwertz @ Aug 12 2008, 4:16 pm) *
I shop there, because it is the least bad option here. I went there today, but saw no McEnnedy or whatever. Whereabouts in the store should I have looked? Is it frozen stuff, or packets, or fresh, or what?

It is from the 13th for area that has friday for a holiday and then for those without the (Mary's liftoff!)holiday it begins on Thurs 14th.
Qwertz
QUOTE (ThePigsInBlankets @ Aug 12 2008, 12:57 pm) *

WTF! Germany, the home of competitive pricing.. don't make me laugh.
Qwertz
QUOTE (Deccie @ Aug 12 2008, 4:18 pm) *
Read the above quote it is from the 13th not tot from today the 12th unless you live in an area that has friday for a holiday.!

Yes, but I mean there is no brouhaha yet.
funf
QUOTE (randy @ Aug 12 2008, 4:05 am) *
Hmmm...I thought it was Aldi Nord, not Lidl.

QUOTE (randy @ Aug 12 2008, 6:13 am) *
Back in the days it was all about the cheap (but decent enough) gallons of wine. I thought that's what they were best known for. That, and pretty good frozen teriyaki beef bowls. Yum.

Aldi/Lidl. Oops. One of them used to sell these 45 cent euro boxes of Gewurtztraminer that went down a treat! Obviously I'm no great wine drinker, but I loved the stuff!
GerryM
QUOTE (ThePigsInBlankets @ Aug 12 2008, 12:57 pm) *

Thanks, I knew Wal-Mart had given up but not the background.
Doesn't sound like they failed to crack an "undemanding" market to me. Sonds like it was just the opposite, in fact.
dom
I've been here too long...I gobbled up that Hatherwood cod fillet all I could get, until I got a bad batch with loads of bones and was sick for a week!
The mint sauce says "use within a few days"...that'll be in my fridge for the next 5 years!
Yes, the germans make fun of the brits and the fisch und schips, but lets face it wiener schnitzel and spätzle is just as cheap and cheerful (not so cheerful when you've piled on the sludge they call rahm sauce).
German curry and "chinese" takeaways are crap, and I stick to doner kebaps which are cheaper than UK kebabs! Altbier and kolsch mixed together tastes like cafreys! Try asking for it in koln or dusseldorf, and you'll get your head kicked in!!
Love livin wink.gif ere!
murphaph
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Aug 12 2008, 8:33 am) *
Nope, no Lidl in the US for the same reason that Wal*Mart failed here in Germany: incredibly tight and tough market with massive infrastructure in place for those already there.

Didn't stop Aldi Sued expanding into the US and succeeding by the looks of it. They now have app. 1000 stores in the US. Aldi and Lidl have the same basic business model so your point above doesn't stack up. Aldi can go into a town which has had its main street devastated by the new out of town Walmart and can eek out a profit. I'd expect Lidl to eventually follow Aldi to the US however Aldi has a less centralised management structure with each geographic unit having much more autonomy than those of Lidl. Aldi generally buys more goods locally than Lidl. I've never been to an Aldi in the US but I doubt much of their assortment is transported all the way from Germany.
wishIwerethere
" I've never been to an Aldi in the US but I doubt much of their assortment is transported all the way from Germany."

Most of stuff at the Aldi here in Kansas City is definitely from the US. However, they do carry the Choceur brand of chocolate, and occasionally some Riesen. All in all, however, there are more American products than German (although you have to put a quarter in to get a shopping cart (trolley), and pay for the plastic shopping bags - which, as you all know, is very German).
Believeland
QUOTE (funf @ Aug 12 2008, 12:51 pm) *
The owners of LIDL have bought Trader Joe's stores in the U.S., which is not nearly as discount as LIDL, but offers better value to US customers than do the usual grocery stores. Plus, they carry unique products, including lots of imports. You could get your Ritter chocolate bars there, for example.

I think there are a few LIDL stores in the U.S., but not too many. Certainly not where I live.

Actually the ALDI brothers own Trader Joe's not LIDL

"Trader Joe's started as a string of convenience stores scattered through Los Angeles in 1958, then called Pronto Markets. In response to increasing competition from 7-Eleven, owner Joe Coulombe expanded the chain in 1967 to include gourmet foods at discount prices and changed the name to Trader Joe's. In 1979, he sold the company to Theo and Karl Albrecht, two of the richest men in Germany, who own and operate the European grocery chain Aldi." see SF Gate June 6, 2006 Full article - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...BUGD3J8PJ11.DTL
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